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Ep. 217: ‘Defending pornography’ by FIRE

Ep. 217: ‘Defending pornography’

from So to Speak: The Free Speech Podcast

by FIRE

Published: Thu Jun 20 2024

Show Notes

It is said that censorship is the strongest drive in human nature — with sex being a weak second.

But what happens when these two primordial drives clash? Does censorship or sex win out?

Nadine Strossen is a professor emerita at New York Law School, a former president of the ACLU, and a senior fellow at FIRE. She is also the author of “Defending Pornography: Free Speech, Sex, and the Fight for Women’s Rights.” First released in 1995, the book was reissued this year with a new preface.

Mary Anne Franks is a law professor at George Washington University and the president and legislative and tech policy director of the Cyber Civil Rights Initiative. She is the author of “TheCult of the Constitution: Our Deadly Devotion to Guns and Free Speech” and the forthcoming “FearlessSpeech: Breaking Free from the First Amendment.”

Show Notes:

Transcript

Timestamps

0:00 Intro

2:17 Defining pornography

7:20 Is porn protected by the First Amendment?

Revenge porn

Origins of “Defending Pornography”

Andrea Dworkin and Catharine MacKinnon

Can porn be consensual?

Dworkin/MacKinnon model legislation

Porn in Canada

Is it possible to ban porn?

College professor’s porn hobby

Outro